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I'm welcoming myself. XD Haraezuki TaLk 16:16, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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Sorry to get back to you later than usual Haraezuki. I hope you're feeling better. :/ Sorry to hear you have been ill.
General question - any specific order to characters? I see that Terms and locations are in alphabetical order? But not More pages and characters? I was just curious as to the reasoning why? :)
Fatal Frame Navbar
(I like the distinction between player and main characters. nice! Overall layout is great too. Just nitpicks on linked articles. :) )
- Characters - Add People Killed to minor characters/ghosts.
- Terms - Priest's Manual isn't a term - item. Buddha statues - item not term. Kagome Doll - item not term. Holy Mirror - I agree this should be a term, although probably not link to item article? I'll write something up for you? :) Add Rope Shrine Maiden as a term. Add Folklorist as a term.
- Gameplay (add) - Save points, Films, Flashlight, Lenses, Functions, & Fatal Frame Spiritlist (hasn't been created, will be).
- Locations - looks good
- More pages - Take out Fatal Frame Fanbook link.
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- Characters - Azami Kiryu should be a minor character. Aso should be spelled Asou. Twin Doll should be a major. (Although argueably, Kiryu twins being there their father should be major too). Just used Minakami Villagers instead of listing Pole Bearer, Sickle Bearer & Seeker since those are listed in that article already. :)
- Terms - move Films to gameplay. Move Flashlight to gameplay.
- Gameplay (add) - add Save points, Spirit Orbs, Fatal Frame II Spiritlist, Lenses, List of Spirit Stones in Fatal Frame II(can be shorted to Spirit Stones) & Functions.
- Music - is this just for Amano Tsukiko's music? Or should Veiled Priest Chant be moved down here as well. (if so, make a music section for FF and put Kagome, Kagome there - take it out of terms if so), take out [[Tenryuu]
- Locations - looks good.
- More Pages -- add Cutscenes, Costumes, & Endings & Mio's Memo
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- Characters - Aso should be spelled Asou.
- Terms - Car accident - more of an event then a term? Not sure if it needs to be listed here. Hiraita, Hiraita is like Onigokko & Miko realistic terms, but terms not mentioned in the game specifically. So take that out. :) Add Outsiders.
- Gameplay - Add Save points, Films, Flashlight, Lenses, Functions, Special Abilities & Fatal Frame III Spiritlist
- Music - Take out A Moon Child in The Sky, if music is music for the game itself, add Handmaiden's Song. (Take it out from Terms if so)
- locations - look good? Maybe separate from real world (rei's house & rooms) to the dream world? - like how characters section is done?
- More pages - Take out Fatal Frame III File, I don't know why that page even exists, since the first three categories cover what is listed there. Add Rei's Notebook.
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- Character - Aso should be Asou. Dr. Kunihiko Asou should be in Major characters, not minor.
- Terms - move Flashlight to gameplay. Add Kanade. Add Utsuwa.
- Gameplay - Add Save points, Films, Lenses, Functions, Crystals & Fatal Frame IV Spiritlist (hasn't been created, will be).
- Locations - split up like characters. Rougetsu Hall (list rooms and locations underneath) and then the rest until more of the Hospital rooms are added. :)
- Music - is fine.
- More Pages - add Choushiro's Handbook & Endings.
That's all I can think of right now? Otherwise, the setup and colours of all of them looks well. :)
--Emi 14:40, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
I just thought I'd mention this, but for FF2 Sunken Woman and Drowned Woman are the same thing so they should only be listed under one of those names- same thing with Shrine Carpenters and Men in White for FF3. Also, for FF3 you may want to link Dungeon as Confinement Room, because that was its name in that game. I also THINK you should use the actual ghost names for those few you haven't (for example, Box Ghost, Broken Neck Woman and Killed People- they're never, ever referred as that in anything I've seen and it did actually confuse me a little. Especially as difficult as it is already to distinguish between the two broken neck ladies xD) just to make it clearer-just a suggestion. And just to be kind of picky, should Camera Obscura really be under Terms for FF1, seeing as it was never used in that game? Oh and, not totally sure about Marie and Tomoe for FF4, seeing as they're mentioned, oh...twice in the entire game and that was just the two intros? I'm not really sure whether they still count as major or not; after all, you never see them on the spirit list or anything either.
TEP 04:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Talk navbar page
Answered your questions about the navbars on the talk page.
PS. You really don't have to save/waste pages on the wiki to archive extra talk pages... especially if most of the subjects in question have been resolved? <:) Just feels like a big waste of extra space on the server to me. <:) Unless you absolutely need some convos to stay around?--Emi 13:39, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hm... okay then. ^^ I'll just save the important stuff at my user page and delete that one =D - Haraezuki TaLk 14:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Book Template
Already done. ^_^ So you don't have to worry about it. Template:Book --Emi 14:20, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Major Ghosts Templates
Honestly, looking over the 'major' ghosts (or what I consider major ghosts), I think the template should stay about the same as the character Template. The only change being maybe add an 'encountered at' portion.
Example: Template:FF Ghost(Major)
Less work and not having to fix all the code. I'm going to have to look through character templates at 'minor' characters and see what can be pulled out of those.
So, Ghost Templates (Major) - for antagonists & ghosts that have a thorough background/information on them. Ghost Templates (Minor) - the awesome ones in your sandbox, for ghosts that have limited information/are just minor encounters. :)
At least that's what I'm thinking? :) Yes, no, maybe? --Emi 11:49, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think you need to make an entirely new template for the major ghosts, just modify the current character one? I just think it would take more time just to come up with a different designs, and not really necessary? <:) --Emi 11:45, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Navbars
Navbars can be implemented. :) If we need to fix through the 'order' of people/ghosts, then we can do that later. :) (sorry I didn't mean to keep you waiting with that.) --Emi 11:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Disambig
Hey,
There actually was a reason I was naming pages like that.Your edits are fine , because at this point I'm not going to go back and redo all the edits you did...and I can redo what my original plan was. But if you're going to make editing changes like that (Ie naming page protocal) Haraezuki, could you at least give me a head's up on edits and we could talk about it first? :/ --Emi 12:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's not really a big deal, it's just a little aggrevating to come on the wiki in the morning and all the work I did last night gets reversed on name changing alone. -_-;; (The Disambiguation category is fine, it was just the renaming issue. Mainly, most users are not going to write the word 'Disambiguation' out - they end up finding those pages when writing out words like Zero or Himuro etc. Calling it 'disambig' was just a quick shortening so honest I wouldn't have to write the entire word out (and most likely misspell it), every time I created a Disambiguation page. Because mainly, I am the one creating/making edits to those pages. Plus, there are links in the wiki that already link that way, IE Zero(disambig). It's fine to keep it as how you have changed it, because I don't want to go through changing stuff AGAIN... but you do sometimes make changes like this on me without talking about it, and you do miss a lot of the pages it effects, which means I (or other editors) have to go back, find them all and fix them all. :/ It just seems a waste of everyone's time? (I'm sure I am still missing some of the Disambiguation links that link the old way). Again, not really a big deal... it's fine to keep it as it is now, just...please please please ask. I don't mind changing wiki policy if it'll make the wiki easier to navigate/read/etc... but it's nice to get a head's up too. <:) I know you're a wiki admin on your other wiki, and all the help you are doing/have done is really appreciated, just.. use the talk page too please? <:) --Emi 16:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- I know double redirects are bad. :P I'm not going to create them... meef. Nevermind. -_-;; It's really no big deal. I don't think you understand my original point, but it's ok.--Emi 17:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- It's not really a big deal, it's just a little aggrevating to come on the wiki in the morning and all the work I did last night gets reversed on name changing alone. -_-;; (The Disambiguation category is fine, it was just the renaming issue. Mainly, most users are not going to write the word 'Disambiguation' out - they end up finding those pages when writing out words like Zero or Himuro etc. Calling it 'disambig' was just a quick shortening so honest I wouldn't have to write the entire word out (and most likely misspell it), every time I created a Disambiguation page. Because mainly, I am the one creating/making edits to those pages. Plus, there are links in the wiki that already link that way, IE Zero(disambig). It's fine to keep it as how you have changed it, because I don't want to go through changing stuff AGAIN... but you do sometimes make changes like this on me without talking about it, and you do miss a lot of the pages it effects, which means I (or other editors) have to go back, find them all and fix them all. :/ It just seems a waste of everyone's time? (I'm sure I am still missing some of the Disambiguation links that link the old way). Again, not really a big deal... it's fine to keep it as it is now, just...please please please ask. I don't mind changing wiki policy if it'll make the wiki easier to navigate/read/etc... but it's nice to get a head's up too. <:) I know you're a wiki admin on your other wiki, and all the help you are doing/have done is really appreciated, just.. use the talk page too please? <:) --Emi 16:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Ghost Templates
Minor Ghost Templates
With almost all of the minor ghosts (save for FFIV) I have already taken your template and implemented it, making a minor corrections depending on the information provided in games.
You can see here:
Major Ghost Templates
I do like the set up with colours and alternating bars etc, and the design looks fine. As I have mentioned previously, everything that is in the character template should be in the major ghost template. Nothing should really be taken out in my opinion. (Especially not the quotes, game & game appearances information concerning their deaths or when they died. <:)
Fatal Frame IV will not need an English Voice Actor, as the game will not be coming out in English. (I already removed this from the character template). :)
Besides that, looks great! Thankyou for your hard work! --Emi 17:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
chapter navbar
I was planning on having one, yes. To be at the top where it linked to the 'previous' chapter and 'next chapter'. If you want to go ahead and make one, that would be great. (I'll tell you about the ghost templates after work today. I would now but I have to run to work!)--Emi 13:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Ghost & Walkthrough Templates
Hey Haraezuki,
Templates look fantastic and can be implemented. (Apologies for not getting back to you sooner, thngs have been really really hectic on my end lately.) But yeah, they look fine and I don't have a problem with them, so we can start using them.--Emi 13:46, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Minor Ghost Templates
Hey Haraezuki,
As I mentioned before, I had already uploaded your minor ghost templates ages ago and set them up here:
(The FFIV was not created as of yet because at the time we were still figuring out which characters were 'major' and which ones were 'minor'.)
There was really no need to make another set of template pages for them...so I have deleted the extras made. --Emi 21:56, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

